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	<title>Comments on: Andy Beard Wants Dramatic Titles: Just Like Muhamed Saleem&#8217;s.</title>
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		<title>By: Andy Beard</title>
		<link>http://money.bigbucksblogger.com/andy-beard-wants-dramatic-titles-just-like-muhamed-saleems/comment-page-1/#comment-2485</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Beard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 02:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am still here.. still drumming up Diggs on that interview...

Ok think about this.

You enter a title
If the title contains a  then it automatically prepopulates a custom field (I have a plugin that auto creates custom excerpts when you save) and removes the  from the pain title.
You might need to get it to prepopulate even on a draft save when there is a slug defined otherwise posts might be pinged with the wrong title.

Then use your logic for top of a post and use the custom field

This allows for exceptions (just delete the custom field)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am still here.. still drumming up Diggs on that interview&#8230;</p>
<p>Ok think about this.</p>
<p>You enter a title<br />
If the title contains a  then it automatically prepopulates a custom field (I have a plugin that auto creates custom excerpts when you save) and removes the  from the pain title.<br />
You might need to get it to prepopulate even on a draft save when there is a slug defined otherwise posts might be pinged with the wrong title.</p>
<p>Then use your logic for top of a post and use the custom field</p>
<p>This allows for exceptions (just delete the custom field)</p>
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		<title>By: Lucia</title>
		<link>http://money.bigbucksblogger.com/andy-beard-wants-dramatic-titles-just-like-muhamed-saleems/comment-page-1/#comment-2483</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 01:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Dane: On the custom character-- yes. I&#039;ve considered that.  I need to pick one that Wordpress won&#039;t strip out using &quot;sanitize&quot; so that it&#039;s still there. (Also, I would still need to make sure that character is &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; in the feed and does get stripped out when using the_title() in other locations. That function gets used soooo many places!)

Creating a custom function is another idea, and in some ways simpler.  

There are a bunch of ways to organize this. All are easy, and which is best depends on how much fiddling one thinks a user might want to do.

The current one involves no little fiddling after the plugin in installed. If they put in &quot;: &quot;, &quot;? &quot;, &quot;! &quot;, or &quot;- &quot;, and have 20 characters in front of that, it breaks on the punctuation.  

Then, if you turn the plugin off, you still have nice titles.

Other options require them to make choices which has advantages and disadvantages. I do want to avoid something that will create weird titles if they ever turn the plugin off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dane: On the custom character&#8211; yes. I&#8217;ve considered that.  I need to pick one that Wordpress won&#8217;t strip out using &#8220;sanitize&#8221; so that it&#8217;s still there. (Also, I would still need to make sure that character is <i>not</i> in the feed and does get stripped out when using the_title() in other locations. That function gets used soooo many places!)</p>
<p>Creating a custom function is another idea, and in some ways simpler.  </p>
<p>There are a bunch of ways to organize this. All are easy, and which is best depends on how much fiddling one thinks a user might want to do.</p>
<p>The current one involves no little fiddling after the plugin in installed. If they put in &#8220;: &#8220;, &#8220;? &#8220;, &#8220;! &#8220;, or &#8220;- &#8220;, and have 20 characters in front of that, it breaks on the punctuation.  </p>
<p>Then, if you turn the plugin off, you still have nice titles.</p>
<p>Other options require them to make choices which has advantages and disadvantages. I do want to avoid something that will create weird titles if they ever turn the plugin off.</p>
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		<title>By: Dane Morgan</title>
		<link>http://money.bigbucksblogger.com/andy-beard-wants-dramatic-titles-just-like-muhamed-saleems/comment-page-1/#comment-2482</link>
		<dc:creator>Dane Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 01:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to be honest, that I&#039;m simply much more likely to use a custom field to achieve this effect, but the idea for your plugin is pretty cool nonetheless. Have you considered using a configuration to let users select their breack out character and let them choose to append the break after or replace it?

Then they could select a character they wouldn&#039;t use in a title and precede the break with any (or none at all) punctuation they want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to be honest, that I&#8217;m simply much more likely to use a custom field to achieve this effect, but the idea for your plugin is pretty cool nonetheless. Have you considered using a configuration to let users select their breack out character and let them choose to append the break after or replace it?</p>
<p>Then they could select a character they wouldn&#8217;t use in a title and precede the break with any (or none at all) punctuation they want.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucia</title>
		<link>http://money.bigbucksblogger.com/andy-beard-wants-dramatic-titles-just-like-muhamed-saleems/comment-page-1/#comment-2477</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 22:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have a nice flight!  I wrote it last night after the Cubs lost; it didn&#039;t take long.

Right now, all I do is stuff a &quot;BR&quot; in when the_title sees &quot;:&quot; after at least 20 characters.   Then, I do a bit of logic to make sure title is being used at the top of an actual post, not in a feed etc.  I also slap some center tags around the title. (Though that might be better done in CSS.)

I&#039;m just not sure where you are suggesting this be limited to. (I&#039;m kind of liking the look myself. So this will be some sort of plugin. People who like it won&#039;t have to deal with css.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have a nice flight!  I wrote it last night after the Cubs lost; it didn&#8217;t take long.</p>
<p>Right now, all I do is stuff a &#8220;BR&#8221; in when the_title sees &#8220;:&#8221; after at least 20 characters.   Then, I do a bit of logic to make sure title is being used at the top of an actual post, not in a feed etc.  I also slap some center tags around the title. (Though that might be better done in CSS.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just not sure where you are suggesting this be limited to. (I&#8217;m kind of liking the look myself. So this will be some sort of plugin. People who like it won&#8217;t have to deal with css.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Beard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Beard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 21:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a flight in a few hours, so a little pushed to really think about it any more.

A lot comes down to how plugins treat BR</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a flight in a few hours, so a little pushed to really think about it any more.</p>
<p>A lot comes down to how plugins treat BR</p>
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		<title>By: Lucia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 11:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right. It looks bad when there is only one word before the &#039;:&#039;.

I can do all sorts of things, but could you give me examples on &quot;filtered out on everything else other than when the title is used for a post?&quot;

Do you mean when the title is just the excerpt? Or....?  We could just make a separate function called &quot;the_nifty_title&quot;, and then you use replace &quot;the_title&quot; where you want the one with the break inserted.  I could also use a &quot;candy&quot;, so you could place the break precisely where you like it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right. It looks bad when there is only one word before the &#8216;:&#8217;.</p>
<p>I can do all sorts of things, but could you give me examples on &#8220;filtered out on everything else other than when the title is used for a post?&#8221;</p>
<p>Do you mean when the title is just the excerpt? Or&#8230;.?  We could just make a separate function called &#8220;the_nifty_title&#8221;, and then you use replace &#8220;the_title&#8221; where you want the one with the break inserted.  I could also use a &#8220;candy&#8221;, so you could place the break precisely where you like it.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Beard</title>
		<link>http://money.bigbucksblogger.com/andy-beard-wants-dramatic-titles-just-like-muhamed-saleems/comment-page-1/#comment-2468</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Beard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 06:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmmmm, it does make some posts work, such as this one, but with something like the Arrington post it isn&#039;t qite so effective.

Isn&#039;t there some way to do this in reverse such that a BR is entered, but by default is filtered out on everything else other than when the title is used for a post? (so it doesn&#039;t mess up other title listings)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmmmm, it does make some posts work, such as this one, but with something like the Arrington post it isn&#8217;t qite so effective.</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t there some way to do this in reverse such that a BR is entered, but by default is filtered out on everything else other than when the title is used for a post? (so it doesn&#8217;t mess up other title listings)</p>
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